{"id":50666,"date":"2025-05-09T07:48:01","date_gmt":"2025-05-09T06:48:01","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/theplayoffs.news\/en\/?p=50666"},"modified":"2025-05-09T07:48:08","modified_gmt":"2025-05-09T06:48:08","slug":"does-firing-derek-shelton-actually-solve-the-pirates-problems","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/theplayoffs.news\/en\/does-firing-derek-shelton-actually-solve-the-pirates-problems\/","title":{"rendered":"Does Firing Derek Shelton Actually Solve the Pirates\u2019 Problems?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>On Thursday, the Pirates made the earliest managerial change baseball has seen in years, parting ways with Derek Shelton just 38 games into the 2025 season. With the club off to a 12-26 start, bench coach Don Kelly, a Pittsburgh native, will take over as interim manager.<\/p><figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-rich is-provider-twitter wp-block-embed-twitter\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"500\" data-dnt=\"true\"><p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Derek Shelton has been relieved of his duties as Pirates Manager.<br><br>Pirates Bench Coach, Don Kelly, has been named manager. <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/dOO9dDwf5t\" class=\"trk-cta-link\" data-cta-trk='{\"ctaType\":\"Link\",\"ctaSubType\":\"main\"}'>pic.twitter.com\/dOO9dDwf5t<\/a><\/p>&mdash; Pittsburgh Pirates (@Pirates) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Pirates\/status\/1920519001555263852?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\" class=\"trk-cta-link\" data-cta-trk='{\"ctaType\":\"Link\",\"ctaSubType\":\"main\"}'>May 8, 2025<\/a><\/blockquote><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script>\n<\/div><\/figure><p>Shelton departs with a 306-440 record (.410 winning percentage) over five-plus seasons, the third-worst mark in MLB during that stretch. His teams never reached the postseason, never finished above fourth in the NL Central, and never topped a .500 record. On paper, the decision might seem overdue. In reality, it&rsquo;s not that simple.<\/p><h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Was Derek Shelton Ever the Problem?<\/h2><p>The Pirates haven&rsquo;t lost because of managerial shortcomings. They&rsquo;ve lost because they haven&rsquo;t had enough talent.<\/p><p>Shelton&rsquo;s tenure, beginning in 2020, was marked by rebuilding, budget constraints, and limited rosters. His clubs weren&rsquo;t disappointing; they were simply overmatched. Since 1992, Pittsburgh has reached 80 wins in a season only four times. In that same window, only the Kansas City Royals have lost more games this century. The problem isn&rsquo;t effort or leadership. It&rsquo;s structural.<\/p><p>Pittsburgh&rsquo;s payroll strategy has long been a point of frustration. Since Bob Nutting took full control in 2007, the club has spent $1.2 billion on player salaries, an amount that larger-market teams burn through in just a few years. The last time the Pirates signed a free agent to a multi-year deal? December 2017. That&rsquo;s nearly two years before Shelton was even hired.<\/p><p>Before the 2025 season, with Paul Skenes entering Year 2 after a dominant Rookie of the Year campaign, the Pirates spent just $19 million in free agency. For context, their revenue last year came in at a healthy $326 million, in the same range as mid-market teams like the Diamondbacks and Twins, who spend significantly more on their rosters.<\/p><p>So, while Shelton&rsquo;s results were far from inspiring, putting the blame squarely on him is misguided.<\/p><p><strong>ALSO READ: <a href=\"https:\/\/theplayoffs.news\/en\/pirates-fans-show-up-for-paul-skenes-bobblehead-team-doesnt-show-up-at-all\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"trk-cta-link\" data-cta-trk='{\"ctaType\":\"Link\",\"ctaSubType\":\"main\"}'>Pirates Fans Show Up for Paul Skenes Bobblehead, Team Doesn&rsquo;t Show Up at All<\/a><\/strong><\/p><p>As ESPN&rsquo;s Jeff Passan put it a while back on the Jomboy Media podcast: <em>&ldquo;There is zero reason that the Pirates need to operate how they operate. It is a choice. It is a choice that is insulting to fans, to the game, and to players in that clubhouse, who deserve better.&rdquo;<\/em><\/p><p>Ken Rosenthal agreed, on Foul Territory: <em>&ldquo;The owner is ultimately the biggest problem. They were in classic &lsquo;fire the manager&rsquo; territory. They&rsquo;re 12-26, there seems to be a malaise about them. Is it his fault? It&rsquo;s absolutely not his fault. This problem that they have goes so much deeper&hellip; to the general manager and the owner, who continually provides limited resources.&rdquo;<\/em><\/p><figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-rich is-provider-twitter wp-block-embed-twitter\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"500\" data-dnt=\"true\"><p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Derek Shelton's firing is one of the more unfair moves in recent memory.<br><br>\"The Pirates essentially said, we want you to make apple juice, but we're going to give you a bunch of lemons.\" <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/KIojZxLIjQ\" class=\"trk-cta-link\" data-cta-trk='{\"ctaType\":\"Link\",\"ctaSubType\":\"main\"}'>pic.twitter.com\/KIojZxLIjQ<\/a><\/p>&mdash; Foul Territory (@FoulTerritoryTV) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/FoulTerritoryTV\/status\/1920627855123157438?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\" class=\"trk-cta-link\" data-cta-trk='{\"ctaType\":\"Link\",\"ctaSubType\":\"main\"}'>May 8, 2025<\/a><\/blockquote><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script>\n<\/div><\/figure><p>Shelton may not have been the long-term answer, but he certainly wasn&rsquo;t the root of the Pirates&rsquo; struggles. The roster construction, limited spending, and overall organizational philosophy played far bigger roles in the team&rsquo;s repeated underperformance.<\/p><p>Now, Pittsburgh hands the reins to Don Kelly. But until there&rsquo;s a meaningful shift in how the club builds, and invests in, its future, it&rsquo;s fair to wonder how much any managerial change will actually move the needle.<\/p><p>For now, the one bright spot remains Paul Skenes. He&rsquo;s a reason to watch. But even he can&rsquo;t carry a franchise on his own.<\/p>\n<div class=\"mm-layout mm-layout-type-post mm-layout-slot4\">\n<\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Can any manager really turn things around?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":24,"featured_media":50660,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_mux_skip_reasons":[],"footnotes":""},"categories":[6],"tags":[6639,4947],"class_list":["post-50666","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-mlb","tag-derek-shelton","tag-pirates"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v23.8 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Does Firing Derek Shelton Actually Solve the Pirates&rsquo; Problems? - The Playoffs<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"The Pirates fired Derek Shelton after a rough start to 2025. 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